Getting Out of Bed for Buyer Offers Under $500

A well-known highly successful large domain portfolio owner and domainer RickLatona.com recently proposed on his blog that buyers make a low-offer such as $50 when interested in starting negotiations to buy good domains.

Personally, I don’t think starting out with a low-ball offer to buy a domain/website is a good strategy, assuming you are seriouslly interested in buying the domain or web site. As evidence of that it certainly would *not* work if you want to buy one of my good domains/sites since most all the time I don’t even bother to respond to low initial offers.

I will never forget a Sedona Arizona real estate investment class I attended 7-years ago which was conducted by a well known local attorney. He said he does not even bother to get out of bed for anything less than $500 (referring to his legal fee). That figure seems to me like the absolute lowest offer which carries at least a little credibility with it involving most non-blue-chip domain names.

That not bothering to get out of bed view (for a small amount of money) is often applicable with buying/selling domains too. If you have lots of expenses and ongoing concerns about revenue issues (as in-fact I do) you really need a substantial sum of money to help financially, or make much of a worthwhile change to your lifestyle. The fact the the offer to buy was a ridiculous price normally indicates (at least in my view) the seller was not a serious buyer.

Federal Income Tax Return Tax Refund domains

Now that it’s tax season for most U.S. taxpayers we have a golden opportunity for anyone interested in acquiring income tax domains and federal income tax financial websites.

Webtrading has owned FederalIncomeTaxReturn.com and FederalIncomeTaxRefund.com since the year 2000, with Federal Income Tax Return name being active on the-web as a developed website during most of that time.

These two domains are rock-solid as far as steady typein and organic visitors are concerned. After all, what names could be more generic and desciptive than these two? They have received ongoing and steady visitors as far back as our statistics go (a number of years), and only getting better this year.

Even though these domains are attractive to a domain-name investor they are even more desirable to an an end-user type of business what with their strong commercial appeal. For example, a local or national certified public accountant could do real well with these highly targeted names as far as attracting new clients go.

In all likelihood an even better commercial use would be for a firm who sells tax preparation software and other tax related products on the Internet. Such a business could easily earn substantial revenue from sales to new clients. That is especially so assuming they made a much larger web site and had nicely developed sites for both tax domains.

The site statistics are looking better than ever this year what with the ongoing good traffic. During the last full-month of data roughly 40% of the FederalIncomeTaxReturn.com site visitors (numbering 2,111 total uniques) arrived by Direct Navigation (mostly by typing-in the name including the .com extension into their web-browser), plus 35% more from search-engines, and roughly 25% more arrived via links (most all from Hasilnet.com and FederalIncomeTaxRefund.com which are both included in sale and forward to the small developed website). No traffic arrives from marketing and advertising. These names attract free visitors.

Even with the bad economy people obviously still need to file their tax returns. In fact, the very poor U.S. economy may actually help the overall popularity of these tax domains since so many tax payers are filing returns with tax refund anticipation in mind for some extra family revenue during these tough times.

For more information, or to make a serious offer (or possibly advertise on the site) please send us an email to the address below, or give us a call by clicking on the ‘contact us’ link near the top of this page.

Internet Intellectual Property domain/site for-sale

The subject of Internet Intellectual Property and IP Case Law is a legal field which is rapidly growing in popularity. Exactly what is Intellectual Property? IP Property is a product of the intellect which also has commercial value, including trademarks, copyrighted property and material such as literary or artistic works, and ideational properties, including patents, appellations of origin, business methods, and industrial processes.

Webtrading has owned the highly targeted domain name InternetIntellectualProperty.com and its website since January 2000. During that long time the web site has slowly built-up traffic visiting the site and its rankings in the search engines. Our Internet Intellectual Property domain-name could easily be a leading IP Industry Legal Authority and IP Information Source in the future assuming a larger website with far greater content and functionality was online.

This domain name (with the current small website included) is now available to a buyer or internet investor for a reasonable cost. Its value has been estimated to be in the $15,000 to $20,000 price range. Be sure to contact us if you have interest in buying InternetIntellectualProperty.com – a unique internet-domain-name opportunity.

Proposed real-time domain forums daily list

It would be great to have a live real time updating daily list of all domains listed for sale posted by the popular domain name forum boards. This proposal is especially relevant to the more popular and fast-paced forums such as dnforum.com and namepros.com where it can be challenging to locate the somewhat rare good quality but reasonably priced domains of interest to the buyer.

A good approach would be for each forum to run a script which at midnight deletes the previous days for-sale list and replaces it with a new real time list. As threads are started with new domains for sale the domain(s) and link to the thread are automatically added to the days list which is refreshed many times over the course of 24-hours. The price bracket or type of sale would not matter in this proposal as all domains listed for sale would be shown and only listed alphabetically.

Other benefits (in addition to its main benefit of fast access to the domains listed for sale) are avoiding misc clutter, bypassing other posts in the same thread, less background noise (and seller embelishment and marketing copy) with a simple listing of domain-names listed for sale during each 24-hour time frame. Thus, a name of interest could quickly ‘catch your eye’ so to speak by scanning thru the domain list.

By clicking on the provided link to the sales thread you can get more details on the sale. You can then make a fast offer or buy at a ‘buy it now’ price (which is always what I personally prefer doing because I rarely if ever will make blind offers). To avoid search engine indexing of the list (which some domainers feel uncomfortable with) the proposed domain for sale list could use the format example-dot-com

Why am I posting about this? Because it’s so difficult to stumble on the relatively few good names listed for sale compared to all the others. For example, there have been a couple good names I would have loved to buy recently but what with all the ‘background noise’ when I first bring up a forum in the morning it takes a long time to locate those “good” name (especially when using Today’s Posts as I usually do). By the time I see a ‘good’ name which I like it’s often already been sold.

Just one actual example from this week is a name which sold for low-xxx but I would have paid mid-xxx for it if only I had seen the sales thread quicker. If this proposed real-time domain for-sale list was operational I could acquire a domain which I like and is in a category in my business plan, and the domain seller would have received more money for the domain, in this week’s example roughly $200 more in the sellers pocket. That scenario has happened many times over the years at the domain forums.

Futility of marketing & advertising domains for sale

The more and more we look at non-wholesale domain-name sales reports (including a number of believed average or mediocre non-premium looking names) which nevertheless sold for good coin, i.e. as listed and discussed in DNJournal.com the more and more we realized that domain sales success is *mostly* luck if you domain name sells or does not sell.

If you look at the current DNjournal.com DomainSales page you will see listings of 100s of substantail sales. However, if you look closely at all the sales you can tell most came about by being listed in the major domain names for sale firms, places such as Afternic.com, Sedo.com, BuyDomains.com, Namejet.com and Snapnames.com.

These domain venues in our opinion do not sell many domains as a direct result of any marketing or promotions they did but in all likelihood the sale transaction was the result of simply being listed there for sale and found by a link, forwarding to a parked page with a for sale notice, a for-sale page, typeins, or listed in the search engines.

That is based on the law of averages theory. For example, if there are say 1 million names for sale at any given time. Based on domain sales statistics say one-half percent a year successfully sell. In effect, that means roughly 14 names will sell on a typical day (per million for sale) at end-user pricing, irrespective of the strength or amount of any marketing, promotions, for sale websites, advertising, email spams, auctions and domain forum posts.

In other words, what we are trying to say is the typical futility of trying to market (non-wholesale) domain names for sale, especially selling on a web site (without very high traffic, but even then of dubious value) and on forum boards. For example, look at the incredibly dismal looking failed for sale threads on the various domain name boards such as namepros.com and dnforum.com for example.

Again, we are referring to sales which are above the wholesale price level, which by definition tends to exclude most domainer-to-domainer sales which are rarely based on commercial interest and appeal.

Of course, like most things in life there are always exceptions to our “luck theory” such as a domain owner who needs some cash and therefore offers a good name for sale at a price perceived to be low by a bargain-seeking buyer, often a domainer with excess investment money available (assuming the asking price sounds good). Thus seller may achieve a higher price non-end-user sale at a comparatively upper-tier wholesale price area.

How can the domain-forums (and other venues) generate so much quality and highly targeted internet traffic and yet it’s so rare for end-user price level sales to occur (beyond low price domainer to domainer sales and so called domain flips)? The obvious answer is so much of it is based heavily on timing and mostly just plain luck, combined with a shortage of potential commercial appeal level of prospective buyers to those domain-sales venues.

A domain end-user buyer (often a small business) may eventually come looking and knocking on the domain owners door, based mostly on luck as far as the timing of the buyer and their deciding one day they want or must have a specific name, so he/she goes out looking for it, finds it, and finally decides to buy it, for a reasonable non-wholesale price. Luck is without a doubt a huge issue and also the main factor.

Widely used corporate term/domain for sale

CorporateCommunications.com is now available for sale. Now accepting substantial offers based on the strength and strong business use popularity of the name. We have owned this domain name for going on 10-years.

The term “corporate communications” is a widely used term used in business and marketing. Many mid-size and large businesses and corporations have a corporate communications division, department, corp communications manager or director of corporate communications, which is an important part of the company.

CorporateCommunications.com is currenty used as a small website. It gets steady site visitors without any marketing or advertising from people who simply typein the name into their browser window. There are a substantial 5,000,000 plus results in Google for the exact term “corporate communications”

eBlog domain name for blogs and bloggers

One of the finest and most relevant domains in the blogsphere in our opinion is eBlog.org which also gets a good number of visitors a day, averaging 400 to 500 a month over the past few months. On average 59% of the eblog visits are from folks who type-in the eblog.org name (including its nice dot-org extension) directly into their browsers address window. Even more folks enter eBlog.org by using their search-engine search box.

In addition, eBlog gets regular site visitors who are searching for the word eBlog and enter “eblog” into their search engine, in particular Google, where (at least the last time we checked) they see eBlog.org highly ranked #6 in Google out of almost 2 million results

What with blogs and blogging getting more and more popular eblog.org should increase in value in the future even above today’s estimated value of about $20,000 (offer price target area). At this time we are looking for investors to invest funds which we can use for planned web site development. However, we will also entertain reasonable purchase offers for this website from those who wish to acquire this great domain now instead of making an investment in it.